you could be right there pat.. although self confessed pagans have a more narrow meaning, like an actual kind of spirituality or something, or a basic outlook, which they call paganism... ask octaviun or roz, i think they call themselves pagans.. maybe its just roz? forget

if i were forced to join one of the hebrew religions, i would definately become a kabbalistic jew... if it had to be orthodox it would still be the jews, but id choose a more daring esoteric mystic sect if i had the choice..

however since i have complete free will, i choose no religion!